The Claudia Ordaz Text Messages

ordaz-txt2As you likely know by now, Ali Razavi aka MaxPowers released some text messages from Claudia Ordaz’ telephone. Yesterday I showed you how Claudia Ordaz used text messages to drive the MPO issue at the city council meeting on July 14, 2015. Today, I am sharing more of the text messages with you.

In an attempt to give you some context to better understand the text messages I have created a timeline for you. Keep in mind that the raw data in the open records requests leaves some of the recipients and senders somewhat ambiguous, therefore I have relied on some guesswork to make them readable. By all means, if you find a mistake please let me know so that I can correct them.

As you go through the text messages, remember to keep the point of view from Ordaz’ telephone.

I have purposely kept the commentary to a minimum in order to give you the opportunity to digest the information. There are many troubling aspects in these messages. Tomorrow, I’ll share my commentary about them with you.

At the very least, there needs to be a serious public discussion about the appropriateness of the text messages. I, personally believe that a criminal investigation should be opened in order to determine what, if any, crimes have been committed, especially in Texas, where there are many laws governing interfering with public duties, interfering with the political process and conspiracy among others.

I’ll have more about this in tomorrow’s issue.

Here are the text messages in chronological order. For brevity sake, I have not included the July 14 text messages nor the text messages between Ordaz and her staff. If you believe I should create a similar presentation of the staff ones, let me know and I will try to.


March 11, 2015

Cortney Niland [5:38 PM] To Susie Byrd and Claudia Ordaz: Firefightes are out walking. Just had a guy come to my door with his cute kids. “Can’t afford the insurance for my family if the city’s proposal passes.”
Claudia Ordaz [5:39 PM] To Cortney Niland & Susie Byrd: OMGOsh. I hope they take the offer to come back the table. It’s best for everyone
Cortney Niland [5:39 PM] To Susie Byrd & Claudia Ordaz: I agree
Susie Byrd [5:42 PM] To Cortney Niland & Claudia Ordaz: Cortney getting a good response, they might just decide to take their chances with the voters.

March 12, 2015

Jose Landeros [1:44 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Oh ok cool, that’ll work. We’re currently hearing the PSB rezoning case you sent into over on. Anything in particular you’d like to clarify?
Claudia Ordaz [1:45 PM] I want to know what they’re considering building there. I’m concerned that it being right next to the park, I don’t want a hotel or something.
Jose Landeros [1:45 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Yeah and also it’s part of the entry to the city
Claudia Ordaz [1:45 PM] Residents in the area want something that’s going to improve the quality of life
Jose Landeros [1:45 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: First thing people see
Jose Landeros [1:46 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Exactly. I’m going to try and require a site plan
Claudia Ordaz [1:46 PM] Maybe you can make mention of that
Claudia Ordaz [1:46 PM] you heard it from the horses mouth
Jose Landeros [1:47 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: With a site plan they can’t build anything unless cpc approves it
Claudia Ordaz [1:47 PM] And council approval
Claudia Ordaz [1:47 PM] Yeah get a site plan
Jose Landeros [2:11 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Got it. 4b1.
Jose Landeros [2:11 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Staff isn’t a fan and will do what they can to not recommend it to council.
Claudia Ordaz [2:11 PM] 😀
Claudia Ordaz [2:12 PM] Thank you!!!
Jose Landeros [2:12 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Of course. This thing is huge! 31 acresbbthat’s absurd.
Claudia Ordaz [2:13 PM] Yup!
Claudia Ordaz [2:13 PM] Didn’t realize it was that big
Jose Landeros [2:15 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Yeah neither did i. But Carlos stated, “We know what it’s going to look like, your typical suburban style development shopping center.” I thought to myself, “Exactly! That’s what we don’t want!” Why does he sound so defeated?
Claudia Ordaz [2:16 PM] what do you mean defeated?
Jose Landeros [2:17 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: I just imagined he’d do what he could to stop that type of development and he just sounded like he’s given up: “yeah, it’s gonna happen, not much we can do.”
Claudia Ordaz [2:17 PM] Wow. Not good. We won’t let that happen
Jose Landeros [2:27 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Yeah now it goes to you all, but the land use map has to be amended first. Worth probably meeting with PSB or staff
Claudia Ordaz [2:28 PM] Ok will do. Thanks Jose

March 25, 2015 Notice the demand to use city resources for her campaign’s benefit.

Claudia Ordaz [1:30 PM] Hey Tommy! Favor to ask of you. As you know It’s campaign season and a lot of my signs are being taken down. I’m thinking its code compliance. There is a sign that was taken down on zaragosa and rabe. And now my opponent has a sign up there. Since code compliance took my sign down there, can you have them take down his as well? Equal treatment 🙂
Tommy Gonzalez [1:31 PM] Agree with u about equal treatment.

March 31, 2015 City Council meeting day

Jose Landeros [9:36 AM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: I’m on my way! You guys are on 18 right?
Claudia Ordaz [9:36 AM] It passed
Jose Landeros [9:36 AM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Wait what? Really?
Claudia Ordaz [9:36 AM] Unanimously
Jose Landeros [9:37 AM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: So I don’t need to go?
Claudia Ordaz [9:37 AM] No you’re good. Didn’t hear from you so I thought you weren’t coming. I made some comments how this is a great collaborative effort. Blah blah blah
Claudia Ordaz [9:36 AM] [9:38 AM] Chief made some comments. It went good
Claudia Ordaz [9:36 AM] [9:38 AM] Enjoy your day off
Claudia Ordaz [9:38 AM] !
Jose Landeros [9:38 AM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Oh shit I didn’t go so early because I thought it was buried in the agenda. Well that’s cool.

April 7, 2015 City Council meeting day

Claudia Ordaz [7:49 AM] Do you have a moment to chat about the future use item
Claudia Ordaz [8:03 AM] About to walk in to the meeting. If you can txt me your thoughts
Jose Landeros [9:10 AM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Apparently during plan El Paso all PSB land was marked as open space in the Plan because that was just assumed it would remain as such. However, given that they now want to sell it they want to amend the plan to be in conformity with it. It’s not wrong to do that and it shouldn’t have an impact on much since the rezoning application is a different procedure
Claudia Ordaz [9:10 AM] They’re amending the future use map for the land that’s being rezoned
Jose Landeros [9:10 AM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Oh!!!
Claudia Ordaz [9:20 AM] Ok so the future land map will almost be like a survey or a plan for the land
Jose Landeros [9:46 AM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: No it’s not its regarding the future land use plan that the city uses [to determine proposed uses in an area. The comp plan

April 20, 2015

Claudia Ordaz [4:02 PM] Claudia Ordaz to Jose Landeros: Hey Jose, can you call me when you get a moment. It’s CPC stuff. I wanted to pick your brain about the zoning case off zaragosa and see what you think

April 21, 2015 City Council meeting day

Claudia Ordaz [7:51 AM] Did they tell you that the Cracker Barrel wanted to move in that PSB property
Jose Landeros [9:40 AM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Hey I’m sorry i didn’t get around to calling you. Is that coming up today?
Claudia Ordaz [9:41 AM] Claudia Ordaz to Jose Landeros: I deleted the items
Claudia Ordaz [9:52 AM] Claudia Ordaz to Jose Landeros: I was getting too much misinformation

May 26, 2015 City council meeting day

Claudia Ordaz [10:10 AM] What are the first steps you took to implement quiet zones in your district? I want to start the process on implementing that in the lower valley. I know it will be an uphill battle because of the lack of funding. Any advice you can offer? Maybe if you have some to chat later
Susie Byrd [10:12 AM] Susie Byrd to Claudia Ordaz: Yes. Call me when you have time
Claudia Ordaz [10:12 AM] Ok thanks Susie!

May 28, 2015

Claudia Ordaz [6:40 PM] Hi judge. Yes of course. Im in austin right now with Vince’s fam but I’ll have some alone time tomorrow. Everything ok?
Veronica Escobar [6:59 PM] Veronica Escobar to Claudia Ordaz: Yes. Just wondering about those incentives for medical facilities on the east and west side that are on your agenda
Claudia Ordaz [7:25 PM] Ok. Sounds good. I’ll call you in tomorrow

May 30, 2015

Veronica Escobar [6:54 AM] Veronica Escobar to Claudia Ordaz: The name of the company is Sun City. No private health care company in EP should ever get tax breaks. I bet they would do zero charity/unfunded care. At least Tenet and HCA take care of unfunded patients. I bet these stand alone shops don’t.
Claudia Ordaz [6:58 AM] Good to know. Thanks judge. Completely agree and I’ll definitely make sure and voice that. I’ll let you know how it goes!
Veronica Escobar [7:09 AM] Veronica Escobar to Claudia Ordaz: Ok. The more info the better so I appreciate it very much. I’ll call you Monday

June 1, 2015

Claudia Ordaz [10:40 AM] Hospital item dead 🙂 sold the idea about not offering charity/unfunded care and council agreed. Also Noe compared these like casinos.
Claudia Ordaz [10:42 AM] We spoke about the exec items in agenda review today
Veronica Escobar [10:42 AM] Veronica Escobar to Claudia Ordaz: Good for you!!! Thanks for protecting the taxpayer!
Claudia Ordaz [10:42 AM] Thank you for putting this on my radar!! Team work

On July 14, 2015, the MPO issues was before city council. See yesterday’s post for reference.


June 17, 2015

Veronica Escobar [3:52 PM] Veronica Escobar to Claudia Ordaz: The guy Carl appointed to the. Charter committee (Thackson), who pushed moving the elections back to May was recommended by the Republican party

July 19, 2015

Eliot Shapleigh [9:16 AM] Eliot Shapleigh to Claudia Ordaz: Great work on MPObbpeople are angry about the lack of competence… You give them hopebbyou are a leader!
Claudia Ordaz [9:29 AM] Senator, that means a lot coming from you. You always fought the good fight. I’m on an island right now but it’s really leaders like you that remind me and give me hope that in the end this will only make the city better.
Eliot Shapleigh [12:30 PM] Eliot Shapleigh to Claudia Ordaz: Keep the faithbbon this issue people are with you 100%bbhave confidence, and have fun!
Veronica Escobar [6:14 PM] Veronica Escobar to Claudia Ordaz: How are you doing?
Vince Perez [10:20 PM] Vince Perez to Claudia Ordaz: Im incredibly proud of you for being so brave. You give people hope that there are still good, hardworking people in government fighting for them. You represent the future of this community and you’re tearing down the old walls of the past. I love you more than you know. Good luck.
Vince Perez [11:20 PM] Vince Perez to Claudia Ordaz: Amazing job!
Vince Perez [11:20 PM] Vince Perez to Claudia Ordaz: That demonstrates some serious problems in the city’s ability to apply for these funds.
Vince Perez [11:20 PM] Vince Perez to Claudia Ordaz: Matthew talked about CBI and TXDOT had a great project b the city’s application for winn road was submitted in the wrong funding category, so the city never had a chance to compete because the application was ineligible!!
Vince Perez [11:20 PM] Vince Perez to Claudia Ordaz: NOT a coincidence. One year ago today you won your election!
Jose Landeros [11:33 PM] Jose Landeros to Claudia Ordaz: Kick ass! You did great.
Claudia Ordaz [11:44 PM] Hi Judge! Sorry for the delayed response. I was emotionally preparing for today!
Veronica Escobar [11:53 PM] Veronica Escobar to Claudia Ordaz: You did great! I felt sorry for Matthew and I think the rest of council looks terrible
Claudia Ordaz [11:54 PM] Thanks judge. It’s awful the city sent him there. I felt so bad.

July 20, 2015

Vince Perez [10:08 AM] How is it?
Claudia Ordaz [10:09 AM] Lots of support but there a lot of people who are against this who are actually property owners downtown
Vince Perez [10:13 AM] How is it with your colleagues?
Claudia Ordaz [10:14 AM] Lol no one is talking to me!
Claudia Ordaz [10:14 AM] It’s great!
Claudia Ordaz [10:14 AM] Actually the major is acting awfully nice. Made it a point to talk to me
Vince Perez [10:41 AM] Hmmm
Claudia Ordaz [12:06 AM] Claudia Ordaz to Jose Landeros: Thanks for everything Jose
Jaime Abeytia [10:32 AM] Not sure if you saw the photo of the hot mess gang
Jaime Abeytia [10:40 AM] Jaime Abeytia sends Claudia Ordaz: Attachment
Susie Byrd [2:38 PM] Just watched News 7 Xtra. You did such a great job.
Claudia Ordaz [2:38 PM] Thanks Susie. I appreciate it very much
Veronica Escobar [4:27 PM] How was your day? Better, I hope?
Claudia Ordaz [4:57 PM] Hi Judge! Thanks for asking. Things are ok… getting better. No one is talking to me still but I feel in the end, this will only make the city better.
Claudia Ordaz [4:58 PM] Being on this island… all I need is a Mai Tai
Veronica Escobar [5:02 PM] You’re awesome. Keep your chin up!!! The city is damn lucky to have you. Let’s get together this week for drinks and laughs to shake off some of the bad vibes from work, if you like. @
Claudia Ordaz [5:03 PM] Thanks Judge and yes I’d absolutely love that!
Claudia Ordaz [5:12 PM] Claudia Ordaz to Jaime Abeytia: Omgosh!!
Jaime Abeytia [5:13 PM] Jaime Abeytia to Claudia Ordaz: Lol, you’re barely seeing that!
Claudia Ordaz [5:14 PM] Claudia Ordaz to Jaime Abeytia: I saw it on your blog! Mean Girls video was over the top hilarious! Can’t stop laughing
Jaime Abeytia [5:14 PM] Ah yes, the cultural references I have because of my daughters…
Claudia Ordaz [5:15 PM] You’re good
Jaime Abeytia [5:15 PM] I just picture McElroy walking away from the podium saying “I just have a lot of feelings”

July 22, 2015

Claudia Ordaz and Jaime Abeytia [12:39 PM] Vince Perez to Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Anyone know what the maximum amount a gift can be for a city elected official or staff member?
Jaime Abeytia [1:19 PM] Jaime Abeytia responds to Vince Perez & Claudia Ordaz with Attachment
Claudia Ordaz and Jaime Abeytia [1:19 PM] Vince Perez to Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: I need to know what the city policy is
Jaime Abeytia [1:19 PM] Jaime Abeytia responds to Vince Perez & Claudia Ordaz: I dont know the city policies. Their ethics policies should be online. Why?
Jaime Abeytia [1:19 PM] Jaime Abeytia responds to Vince Perez & Claudia Ordaz: At the county i believe it cant exceed $50. Then there are several other specifications, if it’s a perishable item, it has to be made available to the public or other offices like an edible arrangement. For example, Fred Loya thanked Leon for recognizing the christmas light fight recognition, and ordered fruit or something. Then i believe there are some exceptions for nonprofit events. I need to look into intergovernmental stuff. Like the consulate. Why?
Claudia Ordaz and Jaime Abeytia [1:19 PM] Vince Perez to Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Because I remember an issue with tickets to events in the past
Claudia Ordaz and Jaime Abeytia [1:19 PM] Vince Perez to Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: And there was a big fight last weekend and lots of city people got free tickets
Claudia Ordaz and Jaime Abeytia [1:19 PM] Vince Perez to Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Apparently even Firth was going to get tickets
Claudia Ordaz and Jaime Abeytia [1:19 PM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Dora was coordinating
Claudia Ordaz [1:23 PM] $75
Claudia Ordaz [1:26] Claudia Ordaz sends city website link to gift reporting
Claudia Ordaz [1:26 PM] Reporting begins on page 11
Claudia Ordaz [1:26 PM] Begin on page 7
Claudia Ordaz and Jaime Abeytia [1:31 PM] Vincent Perez to Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Thanks.
Claudia Ordaz [1:34 PM] The only way we can accept anything larger is if it’s a city sponsored event

July 27, 2015

Jaime Abeytia [12:21 PM] what was the second ballot amendment
Jaime Abeytia [12:28 PM] nevermind

March 11, 2015

Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:24 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: So…
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:24 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: This statement being pimped out by Cortney…
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:37 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: What statement?
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:38 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Let me send it to you
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:38 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Transparent Government City Speaks to Efficiencies, Accountability & Sound Fiscal Management:
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:39 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: That was from tommy and his bs press conference
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:42 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: When was that?
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:42 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Yesterday. Read ept online.
Claudia Ordaz [8:42 AM] This was a press release from yesterday’s press conference which pretty much said absolutely nothing new. They spoke a lot better communication and about bringing council together, blah, blah… but not a single council member was at the press conference because we didn’t get notified until the night before.
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:42 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: When was that?
Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia [8:42 AM] Vince Perez, Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: Yesterday. Read ept online.

August 4, 2015 This is the day city council voted on Tommy Gonzalez’ pay raise.

Claudia Ordaz [9:19 PM] Please keep this between you and me
Claudia Ordaz [9:20 PM] This is the first time I’ve ever regretted a vote
Claudia Ordaz [9:20 PM] Not a feeling I’m used to
Jaime Abeytia [9:37 PM] Everyone makes mistakes. No one expects perfection and you didn’t have bad intentions. It’ll be okay in the long run.
Jaime Abeytia [9:37 PM] You know that.
Jaime Abeytia [9:37 PM] Claudia, I honestly see you and Vince like family. I’d never share that with anyone.

August 5, 2015

Claudia Ordaz [1:15 PM] Spoke with peter. He doesn’t feel the least bit bad. He said he feels more comfortable with this vote than any other he’s taken.
Vince Perez [1:16 PM] Well there u go
Vince Perez [1:16 PM] So u couldnt have been able to change the outcome
Claudia Ordaz [1:16 PM] Just shows how different we are
Jaime Abeytia [3:13 PM] You doing okay today?
Claudia Ordaz [3:21 PM] Eh. Doing alright. Still disappointed. I was thinking if yesterday’s vote could have gone different. I spoke with Peter earlier and he said he doesn’t feel the least bit bad. He said he feels more comfortable with this vote than any other he’s taken. That stays with us
Jaime Abeytia [3:26 PM] Did you get any calls to your office about it? A friend of mine called a couple of offices and I think he posted the numbers in several places in Facebook.
Claudia Ordaz [3:26 PM] Surprisingly no
Claudia Ordaz [3:26 PM] One positive one. Scratching my head on that one
Claudia Ordaz [3:27 PM] Peter said he got at least 10 negative ones
Claudia Ordaz [4:08 PM] Claudia Ordaz to Vince Perez: Can’t shake this feeling off
Vince Perez [4:09 PM] Jorge is on your side
Claudia Ordaz [4:09 PM] Even if he’s not
Claudia Ordaz [4:09 PM] I’m not behind my decision
Vince Perez [4:09 PM] Youve gotta learn from it an move on. You have too much work to do to dwell on this and let you bring it down.
Claudia Ordaz [4:10 PM] I know
Jaime Abeytia [8:14 PM] Jaime Abeytia to Vince Perez & Claudia Ordaz: Honey badger is on the phone with me crying.
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [8:14 PM] Vince Perez or Claudia Ordaz: Why?
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [8:14 PM] Vince Perez org Claudia Ordaz: Cant take the heat?
Jaime Abeytia [8:14 PM] Yeah she is really pissed and she is whining about Claudia and Limon and Tolbert
Jaime Abeytia [8:14 PM] Jaime Abeytia: “Vince and Landeros turned their back on me. They said if they help me it will hurt Claudia so we won’t help you.”
Jaime Abeytia [8:16 PM] There were like 5 witnesses there. Does she not realize that?
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [8:16 PM] Claudia Ordaz or Vince Perez: What is she talking about
Claudia Ordaz [8:16 PM] So random
Jaime Abeytia [8:17 PM] The meeting we had where she said she wanted to be mayor
Jaime Abeytia [8:17 PM] She’s all over the place.
Jaime Abeytia [8:17 PM] “I don’t make decisions based on how people will think about me”
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [8:17 PM] Vince Perez or Claudia Ordaz: And i told her not to blow 70K on a district race.
Jaime Abeytia [8:17 PM] “I don’t make decisions for political reasons”
Claudia Ordaz [8:17 PM] Lol. So she thinks I do? I’m still confused where she is going with all of this
Jaime Abeytia [8:18 PM] Now she’s on Tolbert
Claudia Ordaz [8:18 PM] Ugggghhh. Dramatica mujer
Jaime Abeytia [8:19 PM] She thinks Tolbert made attacks about her baby. He would never do such a thing
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [8:20 PM] Vince Perez or Claudia Ordaz: She mentioned that
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [8:20 PM] Vince Perez or Claudia Ordaz: Well he was kinda out of line with his blog
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [8:20 PM] Claudia Ordaz or Vince Perez: No he was not. He never attacked her. He sympathized with her after he lost his son
Jaime Abeytia [8:20 PM] “She’s pretty to look at, but she has no idea how to develop personal relationships”
Claudia Ordaz [8:20 PM] And he apologized
Claudia Ordaz [8:20 PM] Which he didn’t have to
Claudia Ordaz [8:21 PM] Does she not get that I don’t give a fuck
Jaime Abeytia [8:21 PM] Clearly not. I’ll tell you guys about it as soon as she’s done here…
Jaime Abeytia [8:22 PM] Sas, at least she’s pretty look at. Courtney’s not easy on the eyes and she’s not very bright and arrogant. Thats why dagda nearly kicked her ass
Claudia Ordaz [8:22 PM] Tell her I don’t care and like rousey would say “stop crying”
Jaime Abeytia [8:22 PM] “Who fucking raised her money? Me. Twice.”
Claudia Ordaz [8:23 PM] No she didn’t. It was the judge
Claudia Ordaz [8:23 PM] She had nothing to do with my race. Absolutely nothing
Jaime Abeytia [8:24 PM] Just cuz we run campaigns for 1/5 the price, and get better results, dont be mad.
Claudia Ordaz [8:24 PM] Stop crying
Claudia Ordaz [8:25 PM] Crying emoji with a hashtag over it.
Jaime Abeytia [8:26 PM] “I was grooming her. I took her under my wing. Trust is everything. This is disgusting”
Jaime Abeytia [8:31 PM] “Claudia thinks ‘oh I’m hot, I’m smart. I won by a big margin. You guys should listen to me.'”
Claudia Ordaz [8:32 PM] Omgosh why is she so obsessed with this
Claudia Ordaz [8:32 PM] It’s sad. I feel bad for her
Jaime Abeytia [8:32 PM] Okay. We are off the phone now.
Claudia Ordaz [8:34 PM] Jaime your VM is creepy
Jaime Abeytia [10:00 PM] Jaime Abeytia sends Attachment
Claudia Ordaz [10:12 PM] Do you know who that is from? I’ll stand by that the one time bonus is BS because it screws employees in the end because it’s not a real salary increase. It was a chicken shit move to make it seem like they support employees. But more importantly I voted to in favor of not accepting the 3.9M in revenue so it would have less of a tax impact on residents.
Jaime Abeytia [10:19 PM] I don’t. But I suspect montes.

August 6, 2015

Jaime Abeytia [9:55 AM] Did you hear Limon wants to bring the item back
Claudia Ordaz [9:56 AM] No! I saw her question whether the mayor can veto it
Jaime Abeytia [9:56 AM] I think that was on KVIA
Claudia Ordaz [9:57 AM] Yeah Vince told me he read it somewhere

August 9, 2015

Vince Perez [8:43 AM] Vince Perez to Jaime Abeytia & Claudia Ordaz: “Editorial: Mayor, council bumble on El Paso city manager pay raise”
Claudia Ordaz [12:57 PM] I rarely read the hard copy anymore but I did today. It is filled with people upset about the raise. Yesterday I heard two separate conversations about it, by people I don’t know, about the raise. People are pretty universally upset about it. Pretty interesting when you consider at least with the ballpark there were people on both sides of the issue. On the raise, I struggle to find anyone who supports it and fewer still can articulate a decent defense of it.
Jaime Abeytia [1:01 PM] Have you heard if the mayor is going to veto? He has until today to make the decision.
Claudia Ordaz [1:02 PM] I haven’t and I’m actively snooping around.
Jaime Abeytia [2:51 PM] I’m working on a blog post about a possible veto by the Mayor of the raise to the City Manager. This message is being sent to all members of council. Question: If Mayor Leeser vetoed the raise in order to give the public an opportunity to weigh in on the issue, would you vote to override his veto?
Claudia Ordaz [3:58 PM] My response would be the mayor wouldn’t veto it
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [10:28 PM] Vince Perez or Claudia Ordaz: “There’s a greater chance of finding la llorona riding a chupacabra this weekend than there is of the Mayor vetoing anything this council does.”
Claudia Ordaz and Vince Perez [10:54 PM] Vince Perez or Claudia Ordaz: Or how about: “There’s a greater chance of finding La llorona riding a chupacabra this weekend than there is of the Mayor vetoing anything he says he disagrees with.”
Jaime Abeytia [11:37 PM] Yeah sounds better. Writing the piece now.

August 10, 2015

Jaime Abeytia [8:26 AM] Jaime Abeytia to Vince Perez and Claudia Ordaz: Post should be up in about 5 mins.
Claudia Ordaz [8:28 AM] I thought you guys were joking around

August 11, 2015

Jaime Abeytia [9:36 AM] Jaime Abeytia: Did you ever read the puppy policy thing I sent you?
Claudia Ordaz [9:57 AM] [7:56 PM] Claudia Ordaz to Vince Perez and Jaime Abeytia: sends El Paso Times link

August 12, 2015

Jaime Abeytia [2:52 PM] Jaime Abeytia to Claudia Ordaz: Said she was working on the details and would keep me posted.

4 thoughts on “The Claudia Ordaz Text Messages

  1. This should be an eye opener for the voters, drone voters and nonvoters.

    The obvious conclusions are that the three amigos and deep throat used and abused Ordaz. A very naive young lady that fell victim to the fake flattery. She wasn’t ready for city council and she isn’t now. Let alone for any future office. She lacks knownledge, judgement, understanding public service and confidence. This is exactly what happens when voters allowed themselves to be hoodwinked into voting for unqualified candidates. Ordaz, save yourself and change professions.

    The whole fiasco was about manipulation of city policy for enhancement of imagine and control by a few. The city has no idea where’s it going and county is hopping on one leg with no idea what do with the other. Yet the county clowns honestly believe that while the county is failing they have the ability to govern the city. Well, look around and see for yourself what has been the results. Total Disaster !

    What is absolute stupidity is they still associate with deep throat for guidance. Deep throat is about himself and will do whatever will benefit him. Niland learned this lesson the hard way and that he is untrustworthy. Common sense would tell you not to trust someone that abandons a family and scars the other family with vicious degrading of a parent’s indiscretions. But they gave him a pass. He was the not the victim, WE are. He just smirks at the whole situation. I nearly vomited when I read that some are family. That to me would be embarrassing and scary. If he had no hesitation in destroying his families, what about you. We are seeing someone that will do evil without conscience and blame others for his actions. Research the symptoms, there is a psych label. Rumors, lies, personal attacks, betrayal, manipulation, fabrication of information, arrogance and self importance are deep throats character traits.

    The lesson wasn’t learned by any of them that association with deep throat only results in damage to reputations and raises questions about judgement. He needs to be shown the door everywhere he appears. There was a good reason to show him the door at another government entity. But that wasn’t enough to wake them up. They continue to seek his guidance about dirty politics by whispering over phones and meeting in back rooms. They have the results now, everyone that associated with him is going down the tubes. Which one of you will be next ?

    There is nothing genius about deep throat, he is being used as well while thinking he is “one of them”. The kid that tries hard to be included in the popular high school crowd, while they just keep him around for their errands, jokes and dirty work.

    There needs to be a more thorough search of communications at the city and county. I’m sure there will be many confirmations of wrongdoings. No wonder others fought tooth and nail to prevent disclosure of communications. Stephanie Townsend fought hard to shed light and was viciously attacked for her efforts. Expect the same for others that seek transparency.

    They like to holler “tear down that wall”. Well let’s see if any of them are willing to do that. Suckers voting for suckers to be led by suckers. The city and county symbol should be a “huge lolly pop”.

    1. Hello, The city clerk announces the time at the beginning of the meeting (video). Based on that, I convert the time (length) on the video and correlate it to the time stamps of the text messages. I hope this answers your question.

      Thank you for asking and for reading my blog,
      Martin

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